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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 12:27 PM ET
James Tanner: PLUS/MINUS: The Bitter About Hockey Pools Edition: Hall, Ovechkin, Crosby + Your Gramma's fav NHL Blog - don't let gramps catch her reading it!!
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Mar 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
Ovi also did it with a shortened season, which is pretty ridiculous.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Mar 26 @ 12:35 PM ET
PLUS: Jake Gardiner deserves some Norris Consideration.

He's not on par with Burns, Karlsson, Hedman or OEL....but after that, why not?

Where to start today James ?? - Lindholm - Hamilton - DD - and about a dozen or more other D men - come on - that is just a troll statement -
Love your stuff .. keep it up tiger
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 26 @ 12:36 PM ET
Eichel v Matthews is going to be great for a long time
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
PLUS: Jake Gardiner deserves some Norris Consideration.

He's not on par with Burns, Karlsson, Hedman or OEL....but after that, why not?

Where to start today James ?? - Lindholm - Hamilton - DD - and about a dozen or more other D men - come on - that is just a troll statement -
Love your stuff .. keep it up tiger

- dozerD10



Lindholm is a great player. I had him in my top ten and I think he'll be in the class of Keith-like guys. But I don't think he's had a better year this year than Gardiner.

If you take the names away and look at numbers only, Gardiner is up there. I saw him 10th in WAR the other day.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
Eichel v Matthews is going to be great for a long time
- sbroads24


Agreed. For years they've made us play each other because of geography, but finally it will actually be worth watching.
Charliebox
Joined: 09.08.2008

Mar 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
Wait...were you trying to say Bob Cole is a good broadcaster?

James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
Wait...were you trying to say Bob Cole is a good broadcaster?


- Charliebox


Yeah I'm a huge fan. I don't care how old he is or how far behind the play he gets, I just like the sound of his voice.
MikeBabcock
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAIN'S COMING
Joined: 05.20.2015

Mar 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
so, what was in the pipe last night? must have been pretty strong to spit this out
murTor
Joined: 07.01.2012

Mar 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
Taylor Hall is the best player in the NHL no one knows about. He has the career stats to make put him among the elite of the elite, and......Peter Chiarelli is truly the worst.
jersey is going to finish with less points than they did last season, and edmonton is one of the top teams in the Pacific. Hall is a very good player, but until he helps his team win more games than they lose he will not become one of the greats.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Mar 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I think the Flames have a decent broadcast team.

Giving Crosby a 5 game suspension fir that may have been the silliest suspension the NHL had ever given out. Those slashes are happening all the time every game. I agree it's a problem, but they need to just come out and say there's zero tolerance for hitting someone with your stick if they want to get rid if it.

Can anyone explain to me why you shouldn't get a penalty every time you hit someone with your stick?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
jersey is going to finish with less points than they did last season, and edmonton is one of the top teams in the Pacific. Hall is a very good player, but until he helps his team win more games than they lose he will not become one of the greats.
- murTor

Well, it's a team game so it's not like it's all on hall that edm or jersey weren't any good

But yeah, I suppose one will explain away all the oilers fortunes this season to Connor and talbot, (which I don't agree with entirely. But there's no doubt they're the biggest factors of course)
But the devils are on pace to have significantly less points than last year with only only one major swap in the roster.
Is that coincidence ? I dunno.

I'm one of halls biggest supporters. A great player.
But I was chatting with a devils fan recently and he kinda reiterated a lot of the things I think about hall. He tends to be easy to read steamrolling into the zone alone and button hooking to allow his teammates to catch up. And then he inevitably loses possession.
He just doesn't seem to be able to utilize his teammates and make them better. He's a one man show. Maybe thats his linemates fault?
If he has space then the defence is fuked of course, but yeah, it's the NHL 2017. Not much space out there unless you're Connor mcdavid and can create space with one explosive half step.

I hated the trade so much for awhile. But I'm coming around slowly. We lost the deal in talent by a country mile. But Larsson has been a horse for us over the last couple months. Nothing extraordinary about his game, but does his defensive job hella well, Allows klefbom to take chances and have some feeedom. And He's a physical mean dirty fuker that doesn't look fun to play against at all. Integral tools to the team we are today.
I think he's been an important part of our success. And his contract is beautiful

I guess the question is ;
Are the oilers better with hall and demers than Larsson and lucic?
I think the latter for sure. Especially the way they've both been playing over the stretch run
Cyrakhis
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
I f*cking hate listening to Paul Romanuk and Greg Millen. I can put up with Ferraro and the HNIC crew, but the Sportsnet group is just.. ugh. They state the obvious. They re-visit the same scenarios over and over. They feel the need to inform of us such game-breaking things such as face-off percentage in each zone, how long it's been since a whistle, and random-ass stories DURING the play that have nothing to do with it. Romanuk also makes up his own words, or screws up basic phrases.. "Serpentining". That is not a word. "Champing at the bit" - Nooo. It's "chomping at the bit". =(

Rant rant rant.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
I f*cking hate listening to Paul Romanuk and Greg Millen. I can put up with Ferraro and the HNIC crew, but the Sportsnet group is just.. ugh. They state the obvious. They re-visit the same scenarios over and over. They feel the need to inform of us such game-breaking things such as face-off percentage in each zone, how long it's been since a whistle, and random-ass stories DURING the play that have nothing to do with it. Romanuk also makes up his own words, or screws up basic phrases.. "Serpentining". That is not a word. "Champing at the bit" - Nooo. It's "chomping at the bit". =(

Rant rant rant.

- Cyrakhis

Sounds like Ken Daneyko lol other then I respect him for his on ice play lmao
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
Gardiner can barely crack CF30% since he's taken his new role beside Z but let's pretend he's Norris calibre.

NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
I actually like Gord Miller and Ray Ferraro on TSN. I can't stand anyone on Sportsnet. I just flick to another station during intermissions. Only intermission guys worth listening too is for me is Friedman and I like Colby Armstrong. But on flip side I have absolute ZERO interest in wanting to know about advanced stats. Just show old Rock em sock em vids during intermissions! Haha
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Mar 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
James Tanner: PLUS/MINUS: The Bitter About Hockey Pools Edition: Hall, Ovechkin, Crosby +
Your Gramma's fav NHL Blog - don't let gramps catch her reading it!!

- James_Tanner


Tanner I'm curious about something. Rarely do you write a blog without pointing to how terrible Montreal is. And I get it, youre a Leaf fan and Leafs rule/Habs drool and you need to establish your bona fides as a third-rate troll masquerading as a "blogger"...

Wait I lost my train of thought
murTor
Joined: 07.01.2012

Mar 26 @ 3:03 PM ET
Well, it's a team game so it's not like it's all on hall that edm or jersey weren't any good

But yeah, I suppose one will explain away all the oilers fortunes this season to Connor and talbot, (which I don't agree with entirely. But there's no doubt they're the biggest factors of course)
But the devils are on pace to have significantly less points than last year with only only one major swap in the roster.
Is that coincidence ? I dunno.

I'm one of halls biggest supporters. A great player.
But I was chatting with a devils fan recently and he kinda reiterated a lot of the things I think about hall. He tends to be easy to read steamrolling into the zone alone and button hooking to allow his teammates to catch up. And then he inevitably loses possession.
He just doesn't seem to be able to utilize his teammates and make them better. He's a one man show. Maybe thats his linemates fault?
If he has space then the defence is fuked of course, but yeah, it's the NHL 2017. Not much space out there unless you're Connor mcdavid and can create space with one explosive half step.

I hated the trade so much for awhile. But I'm coming around slowly. We lost the deal in talent by a country mile. But Larsson has been a horse for us over the last couple months. Nothing extraordinary about his game, but does his defensive job hella well, Allows klefbom to take chances and have some feeedom. And He's a physical mean dirty fuker that doesn't look fun to play against at all. Integral tools to the team we are today.
I think he's been an important part of our success. And his contract is beautiful

I guess the question is ;
Are the oilers better with hall and demers than Larsson and lucic?
I think the latter for sure. Especially the way they've both been playing over the stretch run

- HB77



You do have to give him credit, his last season in Edmonton under MacLellan he was becoming more defensively responsible than before.

Instead of trying to steam roll through on a one on three rush, he needs to do was Crosby has been doing - dishing off to a team mate and getting into a scoring position.

So far, Lucic has just as many goals as Hall this year so that makes the loss of Hall bearable.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Mar 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
The way you feel about the tv coverage is how we feel about reading your blog. We find the humor in it though.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 3:19 PM ET
The way you feel about the tv coverage is how we feel about reading your blog. We find the humor in it though.
- Newgod77



Is that supposed to be in an insult? Good one.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
Tanner I'm curious about something. Rarely do you write a blog without pointing to how terrible Montreal is. And I get it, youre a Leaf fan and Leafs rule/Habs drool and you need to establish your bona fides as a third-rate troll masquerading as a "blogger"...

Wait I lost my train of thought

- DoubleDown


Like I was saying the other day, it's pretty dumb to write off all criticism as being from haters. Maybe the Habs just aren't a playoff team since October ended or something like that.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
I actually like Gord Miller and Ray Ferraro on TSN. I can't stand anyone on Sportsnet. I just flick to another station during intermissions. Only intermission guys worth listening too is for me is Friedman and I like Colby Armstrong. But on flip side I have absolute ZERO interest in wanting to know about advanced stats. Just show old Rock em sock em vids during intermissions! Haha
- NewfieStud


For me the two worst are Greg Millen and Ray Ferarro.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Mar 26 @ 3:22 PM ET
Well, it's a team game so it's not like it's all on hall that edm or jersey weren't any good

But yeah, I suppose one will explain away all the oilers fortunes this season to Connor and talbot, (which I don't agree with entirely. But there's no doubt they're the biggest factors of course)
But the devils are on pace to have significantly less points than last year with only only one major swap in the roster.
Is that coincidence ? I dunno.

I'm one of halls biggest supporters. A great player.
But I was chatting with a devils fan recently and he kinda reiterated a lot of the things I think about hall. He tends to be easy to read steamrolling into the zone alone and button hooking to allow his teammates to catch up. And then he inevitably loses possession.
He just doesn't seem to be able to utilize his teammates and make them better. He's a one man show. Maybe thats his linemates fault?
If he has space then the defence is fuked of course, but yeah, it's the NHL 2017. Not much space out there unless you're Connor mcdavid and can create space with one explosive half step.

I hated the trade so much for awhile. But I'm coming around slowly. We lost the deal in talent by a country mile. But Larsson has been a horse for us over the last couple months. Nothing extraordinary about his game, but does his defensive job hella well, Allows klefbom to take chances and have some feeedom. And He's a physical mean dirty fuker that doesn't look fun to play against at all. Integral tools to the team we are today.
I think he's been an important part of our success. And his contract is beautiful

I guess the question is ;
Are the oilers better with hall and demers than Larsson and lucic?
I think the latter for sure. Especially the way they've both been playing over the stretch run

- HB77


Even if you like Larsson, which I do, you have to consider how dumb it was that multiple NHL GMs are on record as saying they had no idea Hall was available.

It's one of the worst one for one trades in NHL history, but it's made worse by the fact Chiarelli clearly didn't maximize the return he could have got.


Vezzon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 02.13.2011

Mar 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
Jake Gardiner deserves Norris consideration, in another dimension where you get consideration for the Pulitzer for journalism and your boy Donald gets a Nobel peace prize.
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Mar 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
Even if you like Larsson, which I do, you have to consider how dumb it was that multiple NHL GMs are on record as saying they had no idea Hall was available.

It's one of the worst one for one trades in NHL history, but it's made worse by the fact Chiarelli clearly didn't maximize the return he could have got.

- James_Tanner

James which NHL GM'S were on the record saying they didn't know he was available?
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